Filed under: Enigma, Sweet Sustenance, Mad in Craft, In Transit, Politcal Animal, Carp Caviar, illana
I think this Carp Caviar might be my first go at parody. In it, we take on Orson Welles, H. G. Welles, NASA, Carl Sagan, and a bunch of others. If you’re interested, the original video, “Who’s Out There?” can be seen here.
May’s edition of Wired Magazine ran a section about online video, and we were honored (and thrilled of course) to be included in the Avant-Garde section, right next to David Lynch, who actually charges $10 a month for access to his site. Shortly after this article was published, I had a very interesting IM exchange which I’ll post below. You can draw your own conclusions on it, I’m still working on mine.
The PAN [Public Address Network] is also included, which is something I’m deeply passionate about and involved with at the moment. If you haven’t checked The PAN out yet, then you definitely should. I put together today’s feed, and today’s Carp Caviar is included in it. Daniel Liss of pouringdown and Po’fessor Weagel of Human Dog are mentioned in this same article. They are also members of the PAN as well.
[18:36] absurdityDL: Bottom Union, how are you?
[18:36] bottomunion: hey…who’s this?
[18:37] absurdityDL: David
[18:37] bottomunion: wassup
[18:37] absurdityDL: I found you from an article I’m reading
[18:37] bottomunion: yeah?
[18:37] absurdityDL: very interesting things here
[18:37] bottomunion: what article?
[18:37] absurdityDL: my assistant showed it to me
[18:37] absurdityDL: Wired magazine, it’s an article about online video
[18:38] bottomunion: oh yeah, right.
[18:38] absurdityDL: you are listed in the “Avant Garde” section
[18:38] absurdityDL: I am also in that section
[18:38] bottomunion: yeah, funny huh?
[18:38] absurdityDL: davidlynch.com
[18:38] absurdityDL: yes
[18:38] bottomunion: yeah right.
[18:38] bottomunion: who is this
[18:38] bottomunion: ?
[18:38] absurdityDL: I’m not kidding
[18:38] absurdityDL: it’s me
[18:38] absurdityDL: THE me
[18:39] bottomunion: Forgive me if I’m having a hard time believing this is David Lynch
[18:39] absurdityDL: hey what’s the name of that circus tune?
[18:39] bottomunion: It’s called insane clownz, I think
[18:39] absurdityDL: I believe you
[18:40] absurdityDL: that sounds like an insane clown, hahahahahaha ![]()
[18:40] bottomunion: So what are you working on now?
[18:40] absurdityDL: I’m making art
[18:40] absurdityDL: for my web site
[18:40] bottomunion: I see that you charge $10 a monht
[18:40] bottomunion: month
[18:40] bottomunion: nice
[18:40] absurdityDL: my daughter is filming me processing some meat
[18:40] absurdityDL: yes
[18:40] bottomunion: how’s that working out?
[18:41] absurdityDL: it’s difficult to put a price on what I do, but I thought $10 was reasonable.
[18:41] absurdityDL:You should charge for some of these, I think
[18:41] bottomunion: I don’t think anyone would pay
[18:41] absurdityDL: this carp caviar is worth maybe 4 or 5 dollars
[18:41] bottomunion: You have a little more leverage
[18:41] bottomunion: Thanks
[18:42] absurdityDL: I know
[18:42] bottomunion: Could you give me a free membership on your site?
[18:42] absurdityDL: the film industry though…..oh no, I don’t control any of that
[18:42] absurdityDL: sorry
[18:42] bottomunion: ok
[18:42] absurdityDL: I could write a letter to my WebMaster
[18:43] absurdityDL: I will do that if you wish
[18:43] bottomunion: I don’t want to bother you
[18:43] bottomunion: Thanks though
[18:43] absurdityDL: if you have seen any of my films, you don’t need to visit my Web Site anyhow
[18:43] absurdityDL: it’s all the same bullShit
[18:43] absurdityDL: I just can’t put my finger on why
[18:44] bottomunion: I actually just got done watching the first season of Twin Peaks
[18:44] absurdityDL: which is why I throw all this meat around in my backyard
[18:44] absurdityDL: hoping that the insects will devour it, and make something FOR me
[18:44] absurdityDL: you ever eat raw meat? ground beef is basically candy
[18:44] bottomunion: Love the log lady
[18:44] absurdityDL: she gave an excellent hand job
[18:44] absurdityDL: haha just kidding!
[18:45] absurdityDL: rough fingers, calloused from the logs
[18:45] absurdityDL: it wasn’t very good
[18:45] absurdityDL: but back to these insects
[18:45] absurdityDL: have you ever seen their work?
[18:45] absurdityDL: it is stunning
[18:45] bottomunion: Yes, insects do amazing work
[18:45] bottomunion: I’m very aware of it
[18:46] bottomunion: I sometimes wish I was a dung beetle
[18:46] absurdityDL: so I wanted to give them a spotlight, you know, in our realm, the Art World
[18:46] absurdityDL: I know!
[18:46] absurdityDL: but they kept making derivative works, and I had to get rid of them all
[18:46] bottomunion: Bees also seem to have nice vision
[18:46] absurdityDL: exterminate them
[18:46] absurdityDL: sometimes it’s the boot, but it’s just as easy to use your fist
[18:46] bottomunion: I can imagine they’re hard to work with
[18:47] absurdityDL: they actually use the senses of touch and smell much more than vision
[18:47] absurdityDL: they are UnManageable sometimes
[18:47] bottomunion: I meant it as artistic vision.
[18:47] bottomunion: We should collaborate on something.
[18:47] absurdityDL: but like I said, I exterminated them all and am starting fresh with a swarm of fruitflies
[18:47] absurdityDL: who are doing some decent work on the rotten asparagus and pork shoulder that’s on the porch right now
[18:48] bottomunion: nice
[18:48] absurdityDL: could be some kind of Mannerist female form, but too early to tell
[18:48] bottomunion: Fruitflies need time to work
[18:48] absurdityDL: surprisingly so!
[18:48] bottomunion: Yeah, I did some stuff with them in school
[18:49] bottomunion: but couldn’t continue
[18:49] absurdityDL: well, they require a lot of supervision
[18:49] absurdityDL: what is your name?
[18:49] bottomunion: Erik Nelson
[18:49] bottomunion: Have you ever worked with lady bugs?
[18:49] bottomunion: You can get them for cheap
[18:50] absurdityDL: I have not, but I am aware of the catalogues
[18:50] bottomunion: But in some cultures it’s bad luck to exterminate them…
[18:50] bottomunion: so I think you might want to steer clear
[18:50] bottomunion: in case they don’t produce the work you’re looking for.
[18:50] absurdityDL: they devour aphids, which is usually a positive thing in an agrarian society
[18:51] bottomunion: Aphids are a problem.
[18:51] absurdityDL: but they also devour some tree species’ leaves, which is displeasing to the eye
[18:51] bottomunion: yes.
[18:52] absurdityDL: How do you feel about agriculture in general. Bad idea or good?
[18:52] bottomunion: It depends. But mostly, I think good.
[18:52] absurdityDL: Okay.
[18:52] bottomunion: you?
[18:52] absurdityDL: I better get back to this meat.
[18:52] bottomunion: Ok.
[18:52] absurdityDL: It was a pleasure talking to you Mr. Nelson.
[18:52] bottomunion: Nice chatting with you too Mr. Lynch.
[18:53] absurdityDL: I am truly a fan of what you are doing on Bottomunion.com
[18:53] bottomunion: Thanks, that means a lot
[18:53] bottomunion: I’ve been an admirer of your work for a long time too
[18:53] absurdityDL: Cheers!
[18:53] absurdityDL: To aphids!
[18:53] bottomunion: YES
Session Close (absurdityDL): Sat Apr 24 18:53:58 2006
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The video offers a neat perspective.
The im…I’m not so sure what to think.
Comment by Dooser 04.26.06 @ 11:19:22We commend the Bottom Union and its quest for knowledge…Carp Caviar is truly ‘making sense from nonsensical things’.
And as for Mr. Lynch, we believe he is on the right track, littering his house and yard with meat…for this planet belongs to the insects. It is their great epic, the lives they live. They are the observers, the creators, the destroyers. They are the keepers of beauty and death, art and faith. For all others, the ones unable to comprehend, it’s about survival. For us, we’ve created a means…
All good stuff!
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Love the current Carp Caviar. I grew up on the two Welles, Nasa & Sagan.
Great conversation with David.
Of course! This association makes total sense. If you two don’t get together soon and begin to make collaborations, I’m gonna - why - I’m gonna - don’t make me crack the ant farm glass, guys!
Comment by Jan 04.26.06 @ 19:28:58I loved CC14…that first person “(intelligences, smartypants”) in the glasses watching the world really looks like Donald Sutherland in drag.
I want to throw meat into my back yard. Execpt I don’t have a back yard.
Comment by missbhavens 04.27.06 @ 16:52:54i re-read the IM, a communication devise that is foreign to me. In retrospect, deciding if it is of if is Ain’t Mr. Lynch, would the director of Blue Velvet use a smiley face thing?
Comment by GN 04.28.06 @ 7:42:09bottomunion’s REPLY:
Yes, this is a valid point, would Mr. Lynch use an emoticon? Would he even IM? These are questions each viewer (even myself) will have to answer on his/her own.
amazing.
“ground beef is basically candy”.
this guy is such a genius.
It’s an interesting trip walking through your imagination.
Congratulations on the WIRED mention.
DL would definietly use an emoticon. All his films have emoticons in them. And I think the one way nature of the “conversation”, despite Erik’s best efforts, is a dead give away. How cool.
Comment by will 04.29.06 @ 0:11:35[…] They also mentioned a couple PAN contributors by name, Nelson, Weagel, and Liss. […]
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Pingback by Bottom Union 11.20.06 @ 11:45:58I stumbled on this post again. so funny to read this IM after all this time. what a trip. you guys are making work that consistently takes his vision farther (and with less).
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It remains, stealing from an old blues tune
Comment by GN 04.26.06 @ 10:36:08“is she is or is she ain’t, my baby”
still it is neat as all get out
if he is, (i think he is)